{"id":5520,"date":"2018-01-04T14:03:11","date_gmt":"2018-01-04T21:03:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lisahistoryblog.wordpress.com\/?p=5520"},"modified":"2018-01-04T14:03:11","modified_gmt":"2018-01-04T21:03:11","slug":"how-do-i-get-students-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2018\/01\/how-do-i-get-students-to\/","title":{"rendered":"How do I get students to&#8230;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><strong>&#8230;do the reading?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>&#8230;participate in discussion?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know. But here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been doing, and I&#8217;m pretty happy with it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Getting students to do the reading<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s where the rubber hits the road on accountability. Like most people, I assign quizzes designed to make sure they &#8220;do the reading&#8221;. But unless you have 100 questions on the weekly quiz, or get draconian about quiz timing (I don&#8217;t time <em>any<\/em> quizzes &#8211; I think it&#8217;s rude in an online class), they can skip to answer the questions.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, I don&#8217;t really want them to <em>do<\/em> the reading &#8211; I want them to <em>engage<\/em> it, as scholars do all texts. I want them to observe, note, ask questions. So, since few of my classes have discussions, I&#8217;ve combined reading and discussing using group annotation, <a href=\"https:\/\/lisahistoryblog.wordpress.com\/2017\/12\/05\/annotations-in-canvas-hypothes-is-or-perusall\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">originally in Hypothes.is and now using Perusall in Canvas<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I call each week&#8217;s reading &#8220;Read and discuss the chapter and documents&#8221;. The only link to the reading for the week is that one &#8211; they cannot access the reading without being inside the annotation program. Reading and discussing is 20% of the grade. I suggest in the first week what they might do to appropriately discuss, and set auto-grading accordingly. My student surveys suggest it worked well, though some balked at having to do it since the grade percentage was so high. To me, that means it&#8217;s working!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Getting students to participate in discussion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This may be the <a href=\"https:\/\/lisahistoryblog.wordpress.com\/?s=discussion\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">longest-standing concern<\/a> about online classes, especially if you naturally encourage and enjoy discussion in the classroom. I enjoy it, but have trouble getting it to happen naturally, so perhaps that&#8217;s why I have spent more time trying to make it happen using technology!<\/p>\n<p>This last year, I had a new class in early American history, and I didn&#8217;t want to write quizzes (<em>laziness<\/em> is actually the mother of invention). So I designed discussion boards around a short video prompt from a series on controversies in American history. These are simple, and just present a couple of sides on an issue. Using my patented two-step discussion process (well, ok, it&#8217;s not patented, but I did do a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slideshare.net\/lmlane\/the-weekly-discussion-twostep-3451179?qid=0c19a276-69c2-4fe3-aaa2-53a2ee863e1e&amp;v=&amp;b=&amp;from_search=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">presentation<\/a> on it in 2010), I allowed the first half of the week for responses (often emotional and immediate, since here I wasn&#8217;t tracking their reading). Then I came into the discussion on Thursday for my &#8220;Take discussion from here!&#8221; post. This post, in a different colored text, summarized the discussion they&#8217;d had so far, mentioning students by name, then suggested a different (deeper) direction for the second half of the week, based on their responses.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5521\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/images\/takediscussionfromhere.png?resize=648%2C437\" alt=\"Takediscussionfromhere\" width=\"648\" height=\"437\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Discussion was worth (you guessed it) 20% of the grade, given in two 10% grades, one a mid-point and one at the end, with feedback. Student survey responses at the end of the class featured rave reviews:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left:30px;\"><em>I absolutely love the interaction from the discussion boards. There is a lot of reading but it is not difficult. I also loved Lisa&#8217;s constant interaction and getting the second part of the discussion board going by setting up a prompt. I loved this class!<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left:30px;\"><em>The discussions were very engaging and forced students to really think about and consider the topics, not just memorize dates and events.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left:30px;\"><em>I really liked the discussions because it&#8217;s not an online class where we just take quizzes every week, but we get to form arguments and change our perspectives by our classmates.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Make it important: the magic 20% (or more)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that whatever important thing we want them to do, it must be worth at least 20% of the grade. If I really want them to read, our grade percentage should say so. If the goal is discussion, ditto. 20% is a serious grade swing. The only complaints I got from students on either of these techniques was that they wished it wasn&#8217;t 20% or didn&#8217;t realize until late that it was 20%. They owned that this was their problem, not mine.<\/p>\n<p>If I&#8217;m going to dedicate hours and hours to designing discussions, and creating second posts, it can&#8217;t be a 10% assignment (to me, 10% says &#8220;optional&#8221;). I&#8217;d be comfortable, if I didn&#8217;t also have them doing primary source posts, at 30% for either of these.<\/p>\n<p><em>This post was inspired by the wonderful faculty at Yavapai college, and their posts \u00a0about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telswebletter.com\/2017\/11\/11\/the-role-of-the-professor-in-discussion-boards\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">professorial participation in discussion<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telswebletter.com\/2017\/11\/05\/failure-to-read-what-am-i-doing-wrong\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">getting students to read<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;do the reading? &#8230;participate in discussion? Well, I don&#8217;t know. But here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been doing, and I&#8217;m pretty happy with it. Getting students to do the reading Here&#8217;s where the rubber hits the road on accountability. Like most people, I assign quizzes designed to make sure they &#8220;do the reading&#8221;. 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