{"id":2633,"date":"2013-09-05T18:24:02","date_gmt":"2013-09-06T02:24:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/?p=2633"},"modified":"2013-09-05T18:24:02","modified_gmt":"2013-09-06T02:24:02","slug":"the-new-google-dominated-pot-cert-class","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2013\/09\/the-new-google-dominated-pot-cert-class\/","title":{"rendered":"The new Google-dominated POT Cert Class"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last year, the POT Cert Class was set up <a href=\"http:\/\/pedagogyfirst.org\/wppf12\/\" target=\"_blank\">in a WordPress blog<\/a>, and I used the <a href=\"http:\/\/feedwordpress.radgeek.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">FeedWordPress plugin<\/a> to pull in everyone&#8217;s blog posts. As an open class, some people participating in the class were doing cool things other than following the syllabus, so there was a separate Deep End page for their posts, where I used <a href=\"http:\/\/verysimple.com\/products\/hungryfeed\/\" target=\"_blank\">HungryFeed<\/a>. The whole setup is explained <a href=\"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2012\/09\/workflows-for-the-pot-cert-blog\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2012\/11\/more-on-setting-up-a-wpfwp-open-online-class\/\" target=\"_blank\">here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>It became too complex for one person to handle, particularly when that person is me and problems occurred, like feeds not being pulled in and the fix being code-level.<\/p>\n<p>So this year I had <a href=\"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2013\/05\/pot-cert-changes\/\" target=\"_blank\">different goals<\/a>. \u00a0The plan was that everyone still have their own blog, but share the link to their weekly post in the <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/0\/communities\/115589355106645863979.\" target=\"_blank\">Pedagogy First Google Plus Community<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But as I set up the <a href=\"http:\/\/pedagogyfirst.org\/wppf13\" target=\"_blank\">WordPress blog <\/a>(which was there for the syllabus, widgets, static material), I realized that there was no need for two systems. After consulting with my colleagues Jim (our blog meister), Laura (our commenter and organizer), and Todd (our captain of synchronicity), I shifted the whole thing to a <strong>Google Site<\/strong>. There was no need for the Community, since I had some old gadget that could do discussion.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" alt=\"sitespost\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitespost.png?resize=388%2C240&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"388\" height=\"240\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The only miscalculation was that my old gadget nested discussions, but when I moved the discussions to the new site, they <em>didn&#8217;t nest.<\/em> This made me angry, but I got over it. In the first place, each person would be posting a link each week, and everyone would reply to them anyway. And in the second place, it wasn&#8217;t worth going back to WordPress just for that. I will miss nesting, but it had just become necessary to simplify.<\/p>\n<p>It was also, as Todd pointed out to me (after his initial concerns about Site, which he works with a lot), an opportunity to learn while doing while learning while doing. That&#8217;s what POT is all about anyway. So the fact that I&#8217;d never run a Google Site shouldn&#8217;t matter, and will be a challenge, and what the hell.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, we&#8217;re missing some things doing it this way. <b>Some things are bad:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>1. I created a <strong>Google Form<\/strong> to have people register, then I manually Share the Site with them, getting their info off the registration form. So they must have a Google account (and I thought a gmail address, but it seems OK so long as the whatever address is accessed via Google). Google does not allow people to just have comment permission &#8211; everyone who comments must have <strong>full edit permission<\/strong>. But I trust everyone in the class &#8211; I know they won&#8217;t mess up the site. So as names come in, I must Share with full permissions.<\/p>\n<p>2. Sites will only allow use of a <strong>limited number of &#8220;gadgets&#8221;<\/strong>, which are kind of like WordPress&#8217; widgets but far less flexible.<\/p>\n<p>3. I could not figure out at first why people who were logged in to Google already, and were given full permissions, could not comment. Turned out there is a <strong>little, tiny, teeny-weeny &#8220;sign in&#8221; link<\/strong> at the very bottom of the page. I turned it into a big button. I also found out that when other people log in, they see a link to a Google survey. So I did this next to the button:<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2638\" alt=\"sitesbutton\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesbutton.png?resize=465%2C207&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"465\" height=\"207\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesbutton.png?w=465&amp;ssl=1 465w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesbutton.png?resize=300%2C134&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 465px) 100vw, 465px\" \/><br \/>\n4. The<strong style=\"font-size:13px;line-height:19px;\"> list of those allowed to Share cannot be reorganized,<\/strong> so it&#8217;s hard to see if I&#8217;ve added someone already.<\/p>\n<p>5. <strong>Gadgets are blind.<\/strong> You cannot see them until you save them, so you can only see them in non-edit mode, so if you use a lot of gadgets it&#8217;s hard to see what the hell you&#8217;re doing.<\/p>\n<p>6. There is a <strong>Google Discussion gadget<\/strong> that I could have used instead of my old gadget (I still have no idea where it came from) but that would require putting everyone into a Google Group, yet another little Google box that would have to be set up. Then the forums would be gadgets. Yick.<\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;ve been able to do <em><b>some cool stuff:<\/b><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Weekly discussion links in the Navigation menu.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This took a little work, but Site&#8217;s More -&gt; Edit site menu settings let me add pages, call them what I wanted, and put them in the order I wanted into the menu.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2640\" alt=\"sitesnavmenu\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesnavmenu.png?resize=257%2C315&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"257\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesnavmenu.png?w=257&amp;ssl=1 257w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/sitesnavmenu.png?resize=245%2C300&amp;ssl=1 245w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 257px) 100vw, 257px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>2. A good substitute for those feeds.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Although it&#8217;s not the central way to read everyone&#8217;s work, I was able to create <a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/potcertclass13\/blogs-1\" target=\"_blank\">a page of feeds<\/a> using the same gadget over and over.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2634\" alt=\"addgadget\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/addgadget.png?resize=630%2C205&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"630\" height=\"205\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>3. The site can be open yet protected.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Everyone can see everything, but only those with Edit permission can comment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4. More cool things I don&#8217;t know about yet.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;ll find them!<\/p>\n<p>Do I have reservations? Only about every five minutes. How could we do this? How could we put our discussions into such a space, dominated and controlled by Evil Empire #2 (or is it #3? I&#8217;m losing track)? What if Google cancels Sites next month?<\/p>\n<p>Be flexible, Todd tells me. Be nimble. OK. Let&#8217;s do it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last year, the POT Cert Class was set up in a WordPress blog, and I used the FeedWordPress plugin to pull in everyone&#8217;s blog posts. 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