{"id":2396,"date":"2013-01-16T20:23:26","date_gmt":"2013-01-17T04:23:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/?p=2396"},"modified":"2025-08-18T13:03:25","modified_gmt":"2025-08-18T20:03:25","slug":"more-grade-cynicism-and-picking-nits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/2013\/01\/more-grade-cynicism-and-picking-nits\/","title":{"rendered":"More grade cynicism and picking nits"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s the third day of class, and I&#8217;ve already had three emails from students questioning the &#8220;correct&#8221; answer on a quiz.<\/p>\n<p>A practice quiz, in the first week, not one that counts for points.<\/p>\n<p>One of the emails didn&#8217;t even address me or greet me, but just asked why their answer was wrong and made a whole argument without so much as a hello. As if I were a computer.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps multiple choice quizzes look like they are written by computer, but these are my quizzes, written by me based on my lecture.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not that the students&#8217; arguments were necessarily wrong. Usually complaints about quiz marking are 50% correct &#8211; if I&#8217;d written the question slightly differently, they would have gotten it right. 50% are just wrong, which is fine.<\/p>\n<p>I change their grade if they make a good argument. I change the quiz question for next term if it was unclear. But it seems I&#8217;m now continually editing quiz questions to try to make them perfect, and of course when it gets to the point where students are arguing about ungraded quizzes, I really have to wonder.<\/p>\n<p>Is this how I want to spend my time? Is this how I want them spending their time? I just want them to think about the lecture or readings, and show me somehow that they have. And since I can&#8217;t engage in a one-on-one tutorial discussion about it to make sure, and because I want them to have some immediate personal feedback, I wrote all these quizzes.<\/p>\n<p>Understand, I don&#8217;t mind them questioning my quiz questions &#8211; it&#8217;s cool that they&#8217;re engaged and I&#8217;m not that insecure. But if they do that instead of questioning my perspective or developing their own, what are we doing?<\/p>\n<p>One thing we&#8217;re doing is encouraging the idea that I am a computer rather than a person. I felt obligated to remind the first student who wrote that I was a person, so I&#8217;d appreciate being greeted. He wrote back that in future his emails would contain a greeting. That email didn&#8217;t have a greeting either.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re nit-picking, both quiz questions and manners, and missing the larger issues entirely.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s the third day of class, and I&#8217;ve already had three emails from students questioning the &#8220;correct&#8221; answer on a quiz. A practice quiz, in the first week, not one that counts for points. One of the emails didn&#8217;t even address me or greet me, but just asked why their answer was wrong and made [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[10,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2396","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-online-teaching","category-pedagogy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2396","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2396"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2396\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9925,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2396\/revisions\/9925"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2396"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2396"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lisahistory.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2396"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}